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I updated to Sierra a couple of days ago and now I don't appear to have the correct version of Java to run a number of programmes on my machine.


I'm getting the following error:


I followed more info and downloaded the appropriate files(javaforosx.dmg), but they simply will not do anything when I click on them or try to mount them as an image. My security settings are set to enable installs from anywhere and I'm running the following system:


Model Name: MacBook Pro

Model Identifier: MacBookPro10,2

Processor Name: Intel Core i5

Processor Speed: 2,5 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 2

L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB

L3 Cache: 3 MB

Memory: 8 GB

Boot ROM Version: MBP102.0106.B0A


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

MacBook Pro

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Colleen Thompson

Re:

Although an Apple ID is required to download OS X, it appears that OS X installers are not actually linked to a specific Apple ID. For example, if one boots into the OS X Recovery partition in order to reinstall OS X, entering a different Apple ID works just as well as entering the Apple ID originally used to download that version of OS X.

That's the recovery partition, which may be different. My experience with the downloaded Lion installer was that it asked for the original downloader's AppleID info when run on someone else's computer. I need to take the time to test with newer OS installers.

In the meantime, making a bootable installer manually or with DiskMaker X strips out the AppleID stuff.

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Colleen Thompson

I had Migration Assistant idle for an entire day. It was absolutely frustrating that in no way Apple allows a 'verbose' mode for it to show what the issue is as it progresses. And 'About n Minutes'.. impractical information.

I agree completely.

I suspected it was a corruption of sort, and ran Disk Utility (found error, couldn't repair). However, Drive Genius found a bad sector (block). So that is why Migration Assistant failed. I made a clone (ignored the block), and migrated from the clone. Amazingly, it was snappier than ever in the Migration Assistant.

Exactly why it's a good idea to do a disk repair before migrating or upgrading.

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Samuel Herschbein

A MacInTouch reader said:

Although an Apple ID is required to download OS X, it appears that OS X installers are not actually linked to a specific Apple ID.

Mavericks and Yosemite installers have the _MAS (Mac App Store) Receipt folder in their Package Contents, so they are linked to the specific Apple ID. Larry Beam reporteday that he deleted the _MASReceipt folder, and the installer still worked. I haven't tried this.

You are correct that a different Apple ID can be entered during installation. I wonder if the installer 'phones home' to let Apple know which Apple ID was used. I'll try and remember to network snoop to figure this out.

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Scott Elliott

Motti Shneor claims:

'It has been forever now (err? at least since 1994) that new Mac computers will only run the Mac OS version latest at the time of their release, or newer. That was true for Mac II Cx and Ci (someone remembers?) as it is true for iMac Retina 27', and the new Mac-mini.'

I beg to differ with Motti. There have been numerous desktop and laptop model Macs released over the years that will run previous versions of the OS perfectly fine, with no issues or driver problems. For example, the current iMac 27' non-retina model can, and does, operate perfectly with Mac OS X 10.8.5. Same with the Late 2013 MacBook Pros.

For these models, the only thing Apple basically changed from the preceding model was a bump in clock speed. So, both of those computers ship with 10.9.x, but 10.8.5 can be cloned over easily and you're good-to-go.

It's when Apple changes the processor on the logic board that the OS will typically not be able to be retrograded. This is indeed the case with the Retina 27' iMac and the latest Mini.

And no, Apple will not void your warranty if you take a retrograded machine in for service. I can personally attest to this.

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David Hauer

Regarding the availability of Mavericks: I was told by someone at the Apple store in Berkeley a few days after Yosemite's release that they would install 10.9 onto my computer if I made an appt. with a Genius and brought it (the computer) in.

I haven't taken advantage of this offer yet. Nor do I know whether it constitutes official policy, if it applies to other stores, how long it might continue.

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Howard Gabel

I plan to stay in Mavericks until 10.10.9 release.

Is it possible to eliminate the update notice for Pages and Keynote etc., which are all tied to Yosemite?

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David Charlap

Motti Shneor wrote:

'It has been forever now (err? at least since 1994) that new Mac computers will only run the Mac OS version latest at the time of their release, or newer.'

Actually, this 'custom' goes all the way back to the first days of the Mac. Note the version history for System 6

6.0.1 was released to support the IIx. 6.0.3 was to support the IIcx. 6.0.4 was for the Portable the the IIci. 6.0.5 supported the IIfx. 6.0.7 supported the LC, Iisi and Classic. 6.0.8 and 6.0.8L added Classic II, LC II and PowerBook 100.

Although some hardware could run a system older than what it shipped with (see Wikipedia's compatibility chart); in general, you had to run at least what was bundled, or a its immediate predecessor.

Nov. 3, 2014

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M Young

Colleen Thompson notes

In the meantime, making a bootable installer manually or with DiskMaker X strips out the AppleID stuff.

The latest version of DiskMaker X failed to make a Yosemite install disk (on a USB flash drive) when run under Mountain Lion. There was an error related to not being able to eject a volume. I used Terminal to make the install disk, and that worked fine.

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Colleen Thompson

It's when Apple changes the processor on the logic board that the OS will typically not be able to be retrograded. This is indeed the case with the Retina 27' iMac and the latest Mini.

I think sometimes Apple also changes the firmware in shipping hardware, without changing the actual hardware, which prevents booting to previous operating systems. I remember this happening in a model of iMac a few years ago.

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Michael Cohen

Howard Gabel asks

'Is it possible to eliminate the update notice for Pages and Keynote etc., which are all tied to Yosemite?'

Yes, I believe there is. In the App Store app, click Purchases on the toolbar. Then, in the list of purchased apps, right-click on the entry for an app you want to stop being bothered about and choose 'Hide Purchase.'

Nov. 4, 2014

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Howard Gabel

Howard Gabel asks

'Is it possible to eliminate the update notice for Pages and Keynote etc., which are all tied to Yosemite?'

Yes, I believe there is. In the App Store app, click Purchases on the toolbar. Then, in the list of purchased apps, right-click on the entry for an app you want to stop being bothered about and choose 'Hide Purchase.'

Michael, thanks a million, this fixed it.

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Pedro Gelabert

Howard Gabel asks:

'Is it possible to eliminate the update notice for Pages and Keynote etc., which are all tied to Yosemite?'

I do not get update notices on Mavericks for Yosemite Apps. In fact, when I run the Mac App Store and choose updates, it shows a line asking me to 'show incompatible App Updates'. If I click on this, it shows all the Yosemite-only apps including iPhoto, iMovie, Pages, Keynote, etc.' Otherwise, I have no other indication on the Mac App Store that there are updates.

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Colleen Thompson

The latest version of DiskMaker X failed to make a Yosemite install disk (on a USB flash drive) when run under Mountain Lion. There was an error related to not being able to eject a volume. I used Terminal to make the install disk, and that worked fine.

The latest version of Diskmaker X is a beta, and is buggy. I sent a lengthy email to the author; he had tweeted that he'd be working on it yesterday and today.

Nov. 6, 2014

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Christopher Kempke

Both of my work Macs just rebooted to install 'Pre-release: OS X Update Seed.' I didn't tell them to (beyond turning on automatic updates), and I'm not a member of the beta program. Is anyone else seeing this? Is it because I'm logged in with a developer-registered iCloud account? I've never been silently updated to a pre-release before, (and I wouldn't have chosen to do it on either of these machines).

Nov. 7, 2014

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Jim Steckel

Christopher Kempke wrote:

Both of my work Macs just rebooted to install 'Pre-release: OS X Update Seed.' I didn't tell them to (beyond turning on automatic updates), and I'm not a member of the beta program. Is anyone else seeing this? Is it because I'm logged in with a developer-registered iCloud account? I've never been silently updated to a pre-release before, (and I wouldn't have chosen to do it on either of these machines).

I was one of the public beta people, and today I got a notice that an update was available. I launched the App Store and the pre-release OS X 10.10.1 beta was there for download. I downloaded, installed and everything seems to be working fine. I have my computer set to notify me of an update but to not automatically download and/or install.

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Noah Rosenstein

I am a beta tester and declined the first announcement of the new beta of 10.10.1. Next morning, to my surprise, it was installed. I also have auto-install on but though rejecting the upgrade took care of that. Guess I was wrong.

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David Blair

Does anyone know of an app compatibility list for Yosemite?
For iOS 8.1?

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Christopher Kempke

Found the answer. In Settings-> App Store for Yosemite, there's a new setting for 'Show Prerelease software' or something like that, that's apparently turned on by default for developers. It overrides the preferences for automatically installing OS updates (My 'update Mac OS X' setting was off, but the 'prerelease software' setting was on, and it automatically updated me).

When you turn the 'prerelease software' option off, it vanishes, and I have no idea how to get it back.

Nov. 8, 2014

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John Holt

I am in the same boat as Noah and would appreciate advice as to how I turn 'auto Updates' off in Yosemite.
I couldn't follow the advice given by Christopher, must be getting old, eh!

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Colleen Thompson

David Blair asked

Does anyone know of an app compatibility list for Yosemite?

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Jeff H

That RoaringApps site says it is not compatible with Firefox and blocks it! It says it only accepts Safari and Chrome.

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Stephen Hart

Colleen Thompson wrote:

David Blair asked:

Does anyone know of an app compatibility list for Yosemite?

I wanted to look at the site because I just gave a Yosemite demo to my user group and hadn't seen such a list.
The first thing the site does is offer two versions of the site, one 'real time' for 'decent computers and up-to-date browsers.'
Click that button and a progress bar pops up for downloading software. No explanation that any software would be downloaded, what that software is for, etc.
Er, no thanks. I'll leave that adventure to a security expert with a disposable Mac.

Nov. 9, 2014

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MacInTouch Reader

Stephen Hart writes about roaringapps.com,

The first thing the site does is offer two versions of the site, one 'real time' for 'decent computers and up-to-date browsers.' Click that button and a progress bar pops up for downloading software. No explanation that any software would be downloaded, what that software is for, etc.

I just tried and it explains what it will download, which is a cached version of the database. It's completely harmless.

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Steven MacDonald

Re:

'how I turn 'auto Updates' off in Yosemite'

Checkbox in System Preferences> App Store.
There'may also be an option to show pre-release versions of OS X which you probably want to deactivate.

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Graham Needham

David Blair asked:

Does anyone know of an app compatibility list for Yosemite?

My web site:

(Not extensive but simple, easy to read web site with no special requirements)

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Colleen Thompson

Re:

That RoaringApps site says it is not compatible with Firefox and blocks it! It says it only accepts Safari and Chrome.

I just tried it. While you do get this warning when accessing the site in Firefox

RoaringApps.com currently only supports the latest versions of Safari and Chrome. I'm working hard to support more browsers, but in the meantime you should consider switching browsers for the best experience. I cannot guarantee all features will work as expected if you continue to use this browser.

You can still continue to the compatibility table. I did not try it extensively enough to see what functionality might be lacking, but it appeared to work, in Basic mode, at least.

I wanted to look at the site because I just gave a Yosemite demo to my user group and hadn't seen such a list. The first thing the site does is offer two versions of the site, one 'real time' for 'decent computers and up-to-date browsers.' Click that button and a progress bar pops up for downloading software. No explanation that any software would be downloaded, what that software is for, etc.

Right above the button you describe is this phrase:

To enable real-time RoaringApps, we need to download all application data (about 5MB) the first time you visit the site. Your browser may prompt you to allow the site to store this data on your computer.

As it explains, it will download 5 MB of data to speed up your use of its database. I did not take this option, and still managed to look applications up in the compatibility table, although I was not able to take advantage of Show All:

You are viewing Roaringapps in basic mode. While using the new RoaringApps in basic mode, filters on the table will only apply to the current index letter. Enable real-time RoaringApps to filter on the entire set of applications in the database.

RoaringApps has been around since Lion, and is the only big site I know that collects compatibility information for new operating systems. It is crowd-sourced, so may be incomplete or even inaccurate. But it's better than nothing.

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Jim Rietz

John Holt queries:

I am in the same boat as Noah and would appreciate advice as to how I turn 'auto Updates' off in Yosemite.

System Preferences / App Store seems to be the place.

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Colleen Thompson

John Holt slyly asked,

I am in the same boat as Noah and would appreciate advice as to how I turn 'auto Updates' off in Yosemite.

Navigate to System Preferences/App Store where there are options for automatically installing app updates and system updates.

See any doves?

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Stephen Hart

MacInTouch Reader wrote:

Stephen Hart writes about roaringapps.com,..

I just tried and it explains what it will download, which is a cached version of the database. It's completely harmless.

It's not that I don't believe your evaluation of what's downloaded, but here's my experience:

The Roaring Apps home page, http://roaringapps.com, has this text:

Yosemite
Helping you upgrade your Mac since 2010, RoaringApps is back once more, this time for OS X Yosemite. We're already crowd-sourcing the latest compatibility information for over 6,000 applications. Is your Mac ready?

When I click the button labeled Compatibility table, an immediate download progress bar begins, with nothing else on the page. The progress bar is labeled Downloading Application Data.

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Stephen Hart

John Holt wrote:

'I am in the same boat as Noah and would appreciate advice as to how I turn 'auto Updates' off in Yosemite.'

System Preferences > App Store
Decide which checkmarks to check.

Nov. 10, 2014

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Adam Bridge

To turn off automatic installation of updates through the App Store open:

System Preferences>App Store

Uncheck as appropriate:

[ ] Install app updates
[ ] Install OS X updates
[ ] Install system data files and security updates

You can also elect to omit automatic checks for updates and to automatically download apps purchased on other Macs.

Nov. 20, 2014

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MacInTouch Reader

On our workstations used for production, we are generally pretty slow in updating to the latest OS. We did not upgrade to Mavericks until it looked like 10.9.4 was pretty stable. At the time, we did not think about upgrading the iLife 11 apps and the iWork 09 suite. They were just postponed.. (both were bundled with the machines). They were not being used at the time.

We would like to update them to the latest versions that are compatible with Mavericks. Now that Yosemite is out, that doesn't seem to be possible. They are now listed as incompatible updates, requiring an upgrade to Yosemite. Not going to happen any time soon.

Anyway to get the App Store to show the last versions that were meant for Mavericks? You would think that the version appropriate to the OS that is running would be available, similar to what is done with the App Store for iOS, but there doesn't seem to be a way. Thanks in advance.

Nov. 21, 2014

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Joe F

Anyway to get the App Store to show the last versions that were meant for Mavericks? You would think that the version appropriate to the OS that is running would be available, similar to what is done with the App Store for iOS, but there doesn't seem to be a way.

But what you are asking is not available in the iOS store either. At least not in the way you are asking. The iOS App Store will only offer you the older versions of software if your hardware is incapable (according to Apple) of being upgraded to the latest version of iOS. If there is a newer iOS version, Apple requires you to update your OS if you want to download the other app.

I assume the Mac App Store is the same. So unless your Mac is not capable of running Yosemite (which is not the case if you are running Mavericks) then you are out of luck. This is one more heavy handed tactic Apple uses to persuade people to upgrade. Right up there with repeatedly downloading multi-GB iOS updates to my devices in the background without my knowledge or consent (yes, they did it again with this latest iOS 8 update) hogging storage space on my already cramped iPad and iPhone.

Word to the wise, pay attention to any news of upcoming Apple OS updates and make sure any App Store software you have is updated before the OS is released. I missed out on installing the free Pages and Numbers apps on the iPhone 5s I purchased shortly before iOS 8 came out. I'm not ready to install iOS 8, and now I can't download these apps which Apple a) made iOS 8 only and b) won't let me access the previous versions because my iPhone 5s is capable of running iOS 8 (ignoring valid reasons for not wanting).

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MacInTouch Reader

Joe F writes,

But what you are asking is not available in the iOS store either. At least not in the way you are asking. The iOS App Store will only offer you the older versions of software if your hardware is incapable (according to Apple) of being upgraded to the latest version of iOS. If there is a newer iOS version, Apple requires you to update your OS if you want to download the other app.

I assume the Mac App Store is the same. So unless your Mac is not capable of running Yosemite (which is not the case if you are running Mavericks) then you are out of luck. This is one more heavy handed tactic Apple uses to persuade people to upgrade. Right up there with repeatedly downloading multi-GB iOS updates to my devices in the background without my knowledge or consent (yes, they did it again with this latest iOS 8 update) hogging storage space on my already cramped iPad and iPhone.

[But..] it doesn't matter if the device can upgrade to the latest system. All that matters is if the system version it's currently running is older than what the latest version of the app requires. In that case, you will usually be offered an older version compatible with that system.

In some cases, an app developer may choose to not offer an older version because the older version no longer works anymore. For example, if an app connects to a server and the protocol it uses to connect changed and now requires an updated version, then there is no point in offering an older version, because even though the app itself might run, it will be unable to connect to the server.

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Joe F

It doesn't matter if the device can upgrade to the latest system. All that matters is if the system version it's currently running is older than what the latest version of the app requires. In that case, you will usually be offered an older version compatible with that system.

That has not been my experience. If it's true that it's up to the developer, then I've had poor luck in using software from uncooperative developers (including Apple). I ran into this a few times when I held back on upgrading to iOS 7. And most recently, I can no longer download Pages and Numbers to my iOS 7 iPhone or iPad, since iOS 8 came out and those apps were upgraded to requiring that iOS.
On my device the iTunes App Store clearly indicates that I am eligible to download them. But when I try, it says I must upgrade to iOS 8 first. They do not appear in my Purchased screen so I can not get them from there, either. And unfortunately for me (original iPad Mini) and my wife (iPhone 4s), Apple says that some of our devices are capable of running iOS 8, even though many people's experiences are that those older devices run iOS 8 poorly, so we will not install it yet.

Feb. 3, 2015

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N J

I am still happy with my PowerPC G5 Dual 2.5GHz. It does most of what I want to do very satisfactorily. But it is time to upgrade Tiger to Leopard, largely because new printers do not have drivers for 10.4, and many internet sites no longer support old browsers that are compatible with 10.4.

Question: where and how to get a generic installation disc for 10.5 Leopard?

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MacInTouch Reader

There are tons for sale on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l2632.R2.TR6.TRC1.A0.H0.Xos+x+10.5&_nkw=osx+10.5&_sacat=18793

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MacInTouch Reader

'..where and how to get a generic installation disc for 10.5 Leopard?'

Amazon.

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Dewey Maxwell

eBay has hundreds of Mac OS X install DVD's for sale. Panther through Snow Leopard.

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Jeff H

You can find old versions of the Mac OS on eBay. I just looked there and judging from the number of bids there's a seller's market.

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MacInTouch Reader

[I] suggest:

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Steve Kelly

For NJ..
eBay is your friend on this one. Today there were about 15 copies of 10.5 for sale, averaging about $80. You might also want to check with any friends you have who use Macs; if they're like me they tend to hold onto OS or application software and may be able to help you out.

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G Ferguson

In response to the reader from NJ who
wondered where and how to get a generic installation disc for 10.5 Leopard?

I once learned the hard way that not every eBay or retail Leopard install disk will work on a PowerPC. Before you commit to a purchase you should be sure to check out the following discussion in the Apple discussion group:

Feb. 4, 2015

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MacInTouch Reader

'N J' writes:

I am still happy with my PowerPC G5 Dual 2.5GHz. It does most of what I want to do very satisfactorily. But it is time to upgrade Tiger to Leopard, largely because new printers do not have drivers for 10.4, and many internet sites no longer support old browsers that are compatible with 10.4.

Without disagreeing that there can be strong reasons to run Leopard rather than Tiger on a PPC Mac - anyone that's doing either and needs a browser should absolutely know about the amazing TenFourFox project:

http://www.tenfourfox.com

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Kathryn Jenkins

Many internet sites no longer support old browsers that are compatible with 10.4.

eBay for Leopard. Get a retail version. And try using the TenFourFox browser. There are versions for G3, G4 and G5 processors, and it has to be more secure than whatever you are running.

Feb. 5, 2015

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Jennifer Cluse

'Many internet sites no longer support old browsers that are compatible with 10.4.'

. . . and Alexander Clauss still offers versions of his iCab that are as current as is possible with the older OS tools, and which can be used in all OSs and processors right back to Mac OS 7.5, and the flavours of PPCs.

Indeed, it is only recently that he has dropped supply and support for the way-back 680xx processors!

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N J

Kathryn Jenkins and another kind MacInTouch reader suggested TenFourFox for G5 running 10.4. Just downloaded it. It is a beauty. Works like a charm. I am no longer locked out of some of the websites that are essential for work.

Only hurdle in continuing my Luddite way of life is drivers for new HP printers. Generic post-script drivers do not have all the advanced options. I will try to work around that problem for now. And buy Leopard on ebay when I visit the USA next.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Feb. 6, 2015

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George

Printer drivers for Mac OS X 10.4:

Waaaay back when I first booted OS X it did not support the HP LaserJet series.

I successfully installed the CUPS drivers.

NJ may (or may not) find the 10.4 option here helpful:

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MacInTouch Reader

Brother has Postcript printers that will run Brother drivers on Mac OS X 10.5. When you update your OS take a look at the HL-5470DW.

Feb. 9, 2015

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MacInTouch Reader

'Brother has Postcript printers that will run Brother drivers on Mac OS X 10.5. When you update your OS take a look at the HL-5470DW.'

I have the Brother HL2270DW, and after failing to get PostScript (or PS-compatible) output on it, and failing to find an updated Brother driver for it (back in early 2013), I called Brother tech support. She told me that you couldn't print PostScript to that printer from a Mac.

BTW, my test for 'PS compatible' output is simply to dump an Adobe Illustrator file to the printer and see what happens. If I do that directly to my printer, the smooth curves come out jagged. I have to first 'print' the file to PDF, and then print that from Preview, to make the curves appear smooth.

If anyone has a link to a Mac-compatible driver for that printer that does support PostScript-compatible output, I'd much appreciate it.

Feb. 17, 2015

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MacInTouch Reader

I am running Mountain Lion on a MacBook. The OS is is completely up-to-date, 10.8.5, with all security updates through 2015-001. In wish to pair it with a new iPhone, running iOS 8.x.x. I figured I'd fully update iTunes and Safari (which I never use) as well. Two questions:

1.) My iTunes is already v. 11.4. I am not sure v.12.x.x gives me anything new (security? Better iOS 8 compatibility?)? I assume I can just install 12.x.x over the existing 11.4 if I decide to do that.

2) I can't figure out how to update Safari (have 6.0.5; current is 6.2.3). I prefer to download and install vs. using software update and I can't find any recent Safari updaters on the support downloads site. So, I looked in App Store and the only links are to Yosemite and a Java update I don't need. My main motivation for wanting an up-to-date Safari was to be sure my WebKit version was current (since iTunes is based on WebKit, I think..). System Info tells me I am at v.8536.30.1-- I can't find a version history on the web. Any suggestions? My main goal is to have iTunes/webkit as secure as possible, since I plan to start using it more with the new phone.

Feb. 18, 2015

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John Collins

A reader asked:

I am running Mountain Lion on a MacBook. The OS is is completely up-to-date, 10.8.5, with all security updates through 2015-001. In wish to pair it with a new iPhone, running iOS 8.x.x. I figured I'd fully update iTunes and Safari (which I never use) as well.

Two questions:
1.) My iTunes is already v. 11.4. I am not sure v.12.x.x gives me anything new (security? Better iOS 8 compatibility?)? I assume I can just install 12.x.x over the existing 11.4 if I decide to do that.
2) I can't figure out how to update Safari (have 6.0.5; current is 6.2.3)

I reverted back from iTunes 12.x to 11.4 because of usability issues and appearance. 11.4 works fine so far with iOS 8.x on an iPhone 5s.

Sorry, can't help with the Safari question.

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Martin Cohen

Re:

I am running Mountain Lion on a MacBook. The OS is is completely up-to-date, 10.8.5, with all security updates through 2015-001. In wish to pair it with a new iPhone, running iOS 8.x.x. I figured I'd fully update iTunes and Safari (which I never use) as well. Two questions:

1.) My iTunes is already v. 11.4. I am not sure v.12.x.x gives me anything new (security? Better iOS 8 compatibility?)? I assume I can just install 12.x.x over the existing 11.4 if I decide to do that.

2) I can't figure out how to update Safari (have 6.0.5; current is 6.2.3). I prefer to download and install vs. using software update and I can't find any recent Safari updaters on the support downloads site. So, I looked in App Store and the only links are to Yosemite and a Java update I don't need. My main motivation for wanting an up-to-date Safari was to be sure my WebKit version was current (since iTunes is based on WebKit, I think..). System Info tells me I am at v.8536.30.1-- I can't find a version history on the web. Any suggestions? My main goal is to have iTunes/webkit as secure as possible, since I plan to start using it more with the new phone.

Don't do it! Keep the old. I have a 2011 MacBook pro running 10.7.5, and I will never upgrade iTunes. Having an iPod Classic is one reason.

In your place, I would get a cheap Mac Mini, copy the iTunes library to it, and then upgrade the library.

Actually, if my MacBook Pro dies with the heavily-reported graphics problems, I would probably get a maxed-out Mac Mini (about $1500), copy everything over to that, and use that.

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Jeff Fishbein

A MacInTouch reader asked:

'1.) My iTunes is already v. 11.4. I am not sure v.12.x.x gives me anything new ..'

Only thing it gave me was headaches and nausea. 12.x is a giant, steaming pile of dung compared to its predecessors, and led me, for the first time ever, to 'backgrade' to a prior version.

The interface is completely redone, and not in a way that benefits the user, IMO. The sidebar is hidden, and is not the same when you finally reveal it. If you like to have control over your own iTunes library, 12.x is not for you.

Like the stupid dots that replace actual label colors in Mavericks, this is an example of where Apple has implemented 'elegant design' against the needs -- and in my case, wants -- of the user. Form over function..

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A MacInTouch reader wrote:

'Brother has Postcript printers that will run Brother drivers on Mac OS X 10.5. When you update your OS take a look at the HL-5470DW.'

I have the Brother HL2270DW, and after failing to get PostScript (or PS-compatible) output on it, and failing to find an updated Brother driver for it (back in early 2013), I called Brother tech support. She told me that you couldn't print PostScript to that printer from a Mac.

The 2270 doesn't have PostScript emulation, only GDI and PCL.

To print PS files natively requires a model with BR-Script emulation, such as the 5470. Otherwise, the rasterization will have to take place elsewhere, such as the computer.

Feb. 20, 2015

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David Charlap

Martin Cohen wrote:

'.. I have a 2011 MacBook pro running 10.7.5, and I will never upgrade iTunes. Having an iPod Classic is one reason.'

FYI, I regularly sync my Classic with the latest version of iTunes. It works just fine.

As a matter of fact, a recent YouTube video (http://youtu.be/GKJsl02f2BU) shows that the latest version of iTunes can still sync a first-generation iPod (as long as you add a FireWire port to the Mac, of course.)

I am aware of plenty of reasons to not want to upgrade Mac OS X or iTunes, but being able to sync your music to an old iPod is not (yet?) one of them.

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Steven MacDonald

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'I have a 2011 MacBook pro running 10.7.5, and I will never upgrade iTunes. Having an iPod Classic is one reason.'

There seems to be some level of hatred for iTunes v.12, but your statement confuses me. I have two iPod Classics and one iPod 5th Gen (the first video capable iPod), and I have no v.12 interface problems with any of them.

Feb. 23, 2015

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MacInTouch Reader

Re:

'I have a 2011 MacBook pro running 10.7.5, and I will never upgrade iTunes. Having an iPod Classic is one reason.'

[But..] I have 2nd and 5th Generation iPods (from 2002 and 2006 respectively), and they both work fine with iTunes 12. Typically the part that stops working first is the iPod battery - but these can be replaced, if you're willing and able to do so.

Mar. 7, 2015

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Joe F

Per the MacInTouch news section, Apple has released Digital Camera RAW 6.03 with support for new cameras, but only if you are running Yosemite? That's ridiculous! Yosemite isn't even 5 months old yet, and Apple has already abandoned updates for all previous versions of OS X? If that's true it's a step closer to losing even more trust in Apple as a stable, reliable computer choice.

Hopefully this is just an advanced release for Yosemite and the RAW update will be available for older systems in a few days. It doesn't affect me directly, as I don't use any of the affected cameras, but it's a bad sign if Apple doesn't provide the updaes for at least 10.9 and 10.8.

Mar. 10, 2015

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Nick Brooker

Hi, had a weird one this morning, my MacBook Pro said Security Update 2015-02 was available and I also signed up to the 10.10.3 public beta for this machine.

Software Update gave me both the security update and the latest 10.10.3 release.

I installed these at the same time, and I'm stuck somewhere in the middle. About this Mac says 10.10.2, but Photos is installed, but won't run.

So be careful if you are doing these together.

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a MacInTouch reader

Apple Security Update 2015-002 kills the Nvidia webdrivers in Yosemite, Mavericks and Mountain Lion.
If your screen stays black when rebooting after the install of the security update, you have to find another way to get back in your Mac.
There is a thread about this on the MacRumors Forum. You can find it here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1853748

There seem to be several solutions to the problem. I solved it by replacing the systemversionplist file with one from my backup drive.

Mar. 11, 2015

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Leonard Gordon

Does the new Apple Security Update disable the video card in the 13-inch MacBook Pro Mid 2010 with the original Nvidia GeForce 320M video card?

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Rob Packett

App Store updates offered Security Update and iMovie update. I chose Update All. Came back to find black screen and spinning color wheel.

No change after waiting ~3 hours. Tried but got no reaction to: trackpad, space bar, mouse click, Command-Q, Esc, not Command-Option-Esc., power button 'click'. Finally held down power button > 5 secs to force reboot.

After noticing Parallels Access is not compatible with this version of OS X, had seemingly normal login, boot scan, and continuation to desktop. However, App Store Updates showed iMovie was installed, but not Security Update.

Second attempt installed Security Update without further problems.

MacBook Pro (Late 2011) running Yosemite 10.10.2.

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MacInTouch Reader

Who has to worry about Apple Security Update 2015-002 killing Nvidia webdrivers? Is that only people who have installed special equipment, or all of us with Nvidia graphics processors? (My 2010 Mini has NVIDIA GeForce 320M.)

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MacInTouch Reader

A MacInTouch reader said,

Apple Security Update 2015-002 kills the Nvidia webdrivers in Yosemite, Mavericks and Mountain Lion. If your screen stays black when rebooting after the install of the security update, you have to find another way to get back in your Mac. There is a thread about this on the MacRumors Forum. You can find it here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1853748 ..

I searched for additional information, and there is not much to be found.

Does the Security Update 2015-002 / Nvidia graphics fault apply to all Macs with Nvidia graphics chips installed when running the stock Apple OS X software?

.. or ..

Does the Security Update 2015-002 / Nvidia graphics fault apply only to those Macs whose owners downloaded and installed 'third-party' driver software from Nvidia's website?

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Benoit Evans

My late-2013 iMac with Yosemite 10.10.02 has the Apple-installed NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M. The 2015-002 security update did not cause me any problems.

Mar. 25, 2015

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Jim Steckel

I haven't seen this reported around but Apple released a new OS X Yosemite 10.10.3 beta recently. This release is build (14D113). I have no explanation why the App Store says I have downloaded and installed it 3 times though. The final OS X 10.10.3 must be nearing.

Also today, Apple released iOS 8.3 beta 2. It wasn't a very large download and installed on my iPad quickly.

Apr. 9, 2015

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MacInTouch Reader

Very disappointed that the latest XCode 6.3 requires Yosemite. Why?

Apr. 17, 2015

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William Ehrich

A running system updating itself is tricky and not always successful. I have found it better to use Combo updaters and have systems on separate disks or partitions update each other. OSX installers and updates let you do this by choosing an alternative destination in one of the first screens of the update process. Security updates don't, but should.

Apr. 18, 2015

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Samuel Herschbein

William Ehrich said:

A running system updating itself is tricky and not always successful.

I agree, the complexity of modern software makes it nearly impossible to patch a running system. In the early 90's a Sun Solaris sys admin I worked with would do live patches - he kept one system running for over a year without a restart.

Apr. 19, 2015

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Ian Wright

A running system updating itself is tricky and not always successful. I agree, the complexity of modern software makes it nearly impossible to patch a running system. In the early 90's a Sun Solaris sys admin I worked with would do live patches - he kept one system running for over a year without a restart.

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Ahhh, those were the days! We ran Solaris on most of our systems (in a university) back then, and it was an extremely robust environment. I remember a sys admin keeping a counter on a Solaris box and proudly telling me when it ticked over 400 days without a restart - I think it ran well beyond that point without rebooting. Mind you, a single Sun server (i.e. hardware) cost in the order of $A25K. We also had servers that we wouldn't shut down for fear the hardware wouldn't survive a reboot from a cold start.

Apr. 24, 2015

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Laurence Gatehouse

I am somewhat confused by the Apple Events Server Update OS X Snow Leopard which 'Fixes an issue where remote Apple Events were disabled by Security Update 2015-002'.
There was no Security Update 2015-002 for Snow Leopard.
Apple's info page you gave a link for does state that it is for Snow Leopard but gives no other useful information and the update does not show up in Software Update. Is this for Snow Leopard Server, is it just Software Update being slow or are we talking allowing Snow Leopard to work with remote Apple Events from versions updated by Security Update 2015-002?

Apr. 25, 2015

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How to use the Software Update service in OS X Server to update your Mac clients

The Software Update service included with OS X Server lets you host Apple Software Updates on your own server. Your server can provide updates for clients using the same version of OS X, and some earlier versions of OS X..

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Michael Fussell

Re:

I am somewhat confused by the Apple Events Server Update OS X Snow Leopard which 'Fixes an issue where remote Apple Events were disabled by Security Update 2015-002'.

There was no Security Update 2015-002 for Snow Leopard.

Apple's info page you gave a link for does state that it is for Snow Leopard but gives no other useful information and the update does not show up in Software Update. Is this for Snow Leopard Server, is it just Software Update being slow or are we talking allowing Snow Leopard to work with remote Apple Events from versions updated by Security Update 2015-002?

I downloaded the patch from the MacInTouch link and installed it on my old 2008 iMac running plain snow leopard. Restarted machine after install and nothing has happened good or bad so far.

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David Empson

Laurence Gatehouse wrote:

'I am somewhat confused by the Apple Events Server Update OS X Snow Leopard which 'Fixes an issue where remote Apple Events were disabled by Security Update 2015-00'. There was no Security Update 2015-002 for Snow Leopard.'

In short, this Apple Events Server Update fixes a compatibility issue between Snow Leopard or Lion and Mountain Lion or Mavericks, which arose due to a change introduced in Security Update 2015-002 for the later systems.

This fix may be used on all Snow Leopard and Lion systems, not just those which are running Mac OS X Server.

Detailed description:

Remote Apple Events is a mechanism which allows a Mac to be controlled over a network from another Mac, from AppleScript or something else using the Apple Events mechanism. A Mac can only be controlled using this method if 'Remote Apple Events' is enabled in System Preferences > Sharing.

In Security Update 2015-002 for Mountain Lion and later system, Apple included a change to a component called Secure Transport, which provides support for encrypted network connections. The fix was for the so-called FREAK attack. Apple fixed the issue by disabling support for low-quality ('export grade') encryption, which is now regarded as too easy to break.

Unfortunately Remote Apple Events used that exact type of encryption, so fixing the security issue broke many uses of Remote Apple Events.

A further change was made in Security Update 2015-004, which got Remote Apple Events working again for Mountain Lion and Mavericks. That still left a problem: Lion and earlier systems were using the old insecure encryption, which meant it was impossible to send Remote Apple Events from a Mac running Mountain Lion or Mavericks to one running Lion or earlier. (I tested and confirmed the other direction still worked.)

This Apple Events Update for Lion and Snow Leopard completes the fix for those systems, reinstating the ability to control them remotely from a Mountain Lion or Mavericks system. I expect this was achieved by allowing the older systems to use stronger encryption.

Apple isn't distributing this update via the Software Update mechanism, presumably because Remote Apple Events is rarely used. Those who are affected can manually install the Apple Event Server update on Snow Leopard or Lion.

If anyone is using this method to control a Leopard or earlier system from Mountain Lion or Mavericks, that is still broken.

It appears that Yosemite has some other changes in this area, so the update wasn't needed to send Remote Apple Events from Yosemite to Lion or earlier systems. For example, I can still send Remote Apple Events from Yosemite to Leopard.

Apr. 27, 2015

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Jack Wenrick

I am running SnowLeopard 10.6.8 and checked Software Update. It showed no listing for Security Update 2015-00 or 2015-02 or other.

Some posters said they downloaded it via MacInTouch.

How can I get this patch?

Thanks

May. 5, 2015

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MacInTouch Reader

As with recent iApp updates supporting only Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite, today's report shows that the Digital Camera RAW 6.04 update does the same. From this, can we begin to assume that Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks has already been deprecated to the point of only receiving security updates for the remainder of its support lifetime with Apple? To me it seems like Mavericks has already been kicked to the curb.

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Joe F

I see today on MacInTouch that Apple has released Digital Camera RAW 6.0.4 update but only for Yosemite? Has this been the case since Yosemite was released? Yosemite is barely half a year old. First Apple neglects to release a critical security update for Mavericks and earlier, which I can almost excuse because it may have required a very complex fix to underlying OS frameworks. But they don't even release relatively simple camera profile updates for an OS that 7 months ago was the current OS?

I know Apple used to release Raw updates for previous OS versions, so I guess this is one more heavy handed tactic by Apple to force users to upgrade. And one more reason to not trust Apple and its desire to have total control over my computing experience. I could upgrade to Yosemite (not likely), but then what? What will be the next issue to deal with on Apple's Pied Piper march?

As much as I love Aperture for it's organization and workflow prowess, as much as I cringe at the thought of having to learn Lightroom and dealing with Adobe's licensing schemes and business model, at least I know Adobe won't pull the rug out from under me. Mac OS X is free, but as they say, you get what you pay for.

Note to Apple: Lightroom is cross-platform.

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May. 6, 2015

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Kathryn Jenkins

The notification of software updates can only be gotten off the screen, so far as I can tell, by selecting the option to be nagged at a later date, the latest date being the next day. This is really, really, really, really, really annoying. Is there a way to get rid of this nonsense permanently?
I am getting this every time I boot into Mavericks, because there is an iTunes 12 update on the Software Update list, which I do not intend to install. I have tried to hide the update, and that doesn't work. I am guessing that this occurs in Yosemite as well, but right now the Yosemite drives are not hooked up for me to test this assumption.

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GJS

Regarding deprecation of Mavericks due to iApps that only work with Yosemite: This is why Apple's touting of OS (and iOS) adoption rates is pure b.s. Users are being herded into upgrades with the carrot of free giveaways and the stick of hardware and software that quickly becomes incompatible with recent system versions.

There was a time when I eagerly anticipated system updates that would improve my experience. Now they're giving them away for free, and I dread them.

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Davide Guarisco

As with recent iApp updates supporting only Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite, today's report shows that the Digital Camera RAW 6.04 update does the same. From this, can we begin to assume that Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks has already been deprecated to the point of only receiving security updates for the remainder of its support lifetime with Apple? To me it seems like Mavericks has already been kicked to the curb.

It's not only iApps and camera support. The latest XCode requires Yosemite as well for no apparent reason.

Interestingly, the just-released Microsoft Visual Studio Code still supports 10.8. So it can be done.

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Matt Neuburg

To me it seems like Mavericks has already been kicked to the curb

WWDC is only one month away, and we can expect another major system update to be announced. Apple is presumably hard at work on kicking Yosemite to the curb! So Mavericks must seem very old stuff to them.

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John Fallon

From the sound of it, the rootpipe security fix made only to 10.10 didn't actually fix it. The only fix to the bash shell was released before all the exploits had been disclosed, and was never updated. At this point, Yosemite has been kicked most of the way to the curb in favor of IOS and whatever new OS will be disclosed at the June WWDC conference. One might as well stick with your favorite OS X version. If you have a firewall and a bit of paranoia, you're very unlikely to get hacked - if you're a home user.

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Mark Thomas

Joe F writes,

'I see today on MacInTouch that Apple has released Digital Camera RAW 6.0.4 update but only for Yosemite?'

Apple seems to have concluded that 'since Photos runs only on Yosemite, and Aperture and iPhoto are discontinued products', there's no sense in pushing raw updates to older systems. It's a win win for Apple because it simplifies their job, and it increases forward pressure on users to purchase new Macs more frequently. ..

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Re:

As much as I love Aperture for its organization and workflow prowess, as much as I cringe at the thought of having to learn Lightroom and dealing with Adobe's licensing schemes and business model, at least I know Adobe won't pull the rug out from under me. Mac OS X is free, but as they say, you get what you pay for.

Adobe will pull the rug out from under you. Recent updates to Adobe Camera Raw are for the most current version of Photoshop, Lightroom or CC. While Photoshop as far back as CS3 will run on Mavericks, getting a new camera profile into it requires using the DNG Convertor.

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Bill Martin

Re:

'WWDC is only one month away, and we can expect another major system update to be announced. Apple is presumably hard at work on kicking Yosemite to the curb! So Mavericks must seem very old stuff to them.'

Not to worry, there is at least one more update to Yosemite. Iʻm currently testing 10.10.4

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Jeff H

Regarding deprecation of Mavericks due to iApps that only work with Yosemite: This is why Apple's touting of OS (and iOS) adoption rates is pure b.s. Users are being herded into upgrades with the carrot of free giveaways and the stick of hardware and software that quickly becomes incompatible with recent system versions.

There was a time when I eagerly anticipated system updates that would improve my experience. Now they're giving them away for free, and I dread them.

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Maybe the real reason updates don't improve anything any more is that microprocessor hardware hit a plateau a few years ago in speed. Multicore processors have to work in parallel, which requires rewriting software. So maybe what's happening is that Apple (and others) are paring down apps so they run better on multicore processors, removing features they decide are non-essential or are not worth their cost in performance.

I'm speculating here, but that speculation is based on hearing some talks on technical issues involved in adapting software for multicore chips. This won't hit all apps equally, but it will hit those that process all instructions in sequence.

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Stephen Magladry

Kathryn Jenkins,

Clicking on the Update Notification Dialog Window, not the buttons, will open the Update app. Let that open and then quit. That silences the update notice for a week. Not perfect, but better that the short times allowed from the Update Dialog.

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Joe F

'Adobe will pull the rug out from under you. Recent updates to Adobe Camera Raw are for the most current version of Photoshop, Lightroom or CC. '

Yes, but the difference is that in a couple of years I will likely still be able to purchase the current version of Lightroom and get the support for new cameras without having to upgrade my entire system (OS, Apple apps, 3rd party apps and drivers which won't work on the new OS, etc, etc) and suffer through all the inevitable headaches.

Similarly, if I do chose to upgrade my OS, mostly likely I'll be able to keep my current version of Lightroom. As compared to if I were to use Photos (which I don't see happening), if I want/need to update my OS I'm forced to also update Photos, which may have changes which I find undesirable.

I'd happily pay for OS updates if that meant Apple would be a more dependable/responsible vendor partner like they used to be. I truly believe the main reason Apple has made OS updates free is because they know a large number of people wouldn't upgrade otherwise, in part because of all the design changes.

For now I am planning on sticking with Mac OS as my primary computing platform. But I will no longer rely on any Apple provided software. Instead of paying for OS updates, my money will go to 3rd-party developers who are motivated to maintain me as a customer. Another poster was right when they observed that is seems all of Apple's design changes are geared towards funneling more and more people into Apple's totalitarian walled garden with the primary goal of a 30% Apple tax on all media and applications you want to add to your computer.

It's time to get out before they lock the gates.